I have installed DreamLife V2.02 on my N97 Mini (with the last softeare update). Just two issues I've seen:
1)You haven't the control of the undone ToDO object. Normally, if a ToDo object isn't completed at the due date, it has to be showed in all the day after. There must be a way to check things done/undone in the past.
2)If you try to set the Alarm to ON doing a new ToDo, Dream Life crashes and the phone turns in the stand-by screen.

Thanks in advance for your answer.

U.Amadei

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<br>I have installed DreamLife V2.02 on my N97 Mini (with the last softeare update). Just two issues I've seen:
1)You haven't the control of the undone ToDO object. Normally, if a ToDo object isn't completed at the due date, it has to be showed in all the day after. There must be a way to check things done/undone in the past.
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Yes, this is how we originally envisioned it, back when we were developing DreamLife for UIQ 3. However, we found that there were two barriers to adopting this approach:

a) The planner view doesn't really suit this style of usage. You end up with a massive stack of todos on today, with no way of seeing when they were due, etc. The planner view doesn't make navigating through them that easy, either, since it is a graphical time view, and todos only have a date (no time) associated with them. We realised that trying to force this behavior into the planner view simply wouldn't work, and planned on creating a todo list view. Well, that plan was destroyed by the end of UIQ 3, and with the switch to Qt looming, that's probably where we'll first do this.

b) The Symbian calendar doesn't do anything to help this -- it doesn't present uncompleted todos in today's list, so we have to manually process todos, unlike all other entries. We wrote some prototype code, but integrating this is into the planner engine is non-trivial. Since this underlying engine component would work better as part of the todo list view above, this is just another nail in the coffin for any plan to try to integrate this behavior into the planner view.

(Ultimately, we'd like to support split views with planner and list views both shown on screen, and possibly detail view as well. But this is non-trivial in S60, and thus much more likely under Qt.)
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I've been able to verify that the N97 mini exhibits this defect (unlike the Satio, for instance). Clearly Nokia has broken so many APIs in their changes to the firmware for the N97 family that we need to treat it as a separate FP of the OS, even if Symbian Signed doesn't reflect that yet. [:(]

We'll fix that defect and bundle that fix into the upcoming version that supports EFIGS languages and 3rd Ed FP1 and FP2.

Regards,

<br><hr align="left" color="#000000" width="110" size="1"> Malcolm Lithgow<br> <font color="#7E7E7E">Chief Dreamer</font><br> <font color="#7E7E7E">DreamSpring Pty Ltd    <a href="www.dreamspring.com">www.dreamsp...;/font></p>

OK, it turns out Nokia has "fixed" the behaviour of a todo's end date and alarm interaction, so it now matches what UIQ 3 always did (which was much more sensible).

Of course, this makes some of Nokia's S60 devices incompatible in behaviour with every other S60 device...

I've modified our code to handle the differences transparently, but some tweaks are still needed and will be done for the release mentioned above.

Regards,

<br><hr align="left" color="#000000" width="110" size="1"> Malcolm Lithgow<br> <font color="#7E7E7E">Chief Dreamer</font><br> <font color="#7E7E7E">DreamSpring Pty Ltd    <a href="www.dreamspring.com">www.dreamsp...;/font></p>

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b) The Symbian calendar doesn't do anything to help this -- it doesn't present uncompleted todos in today's list, so we have to manually process todos, unlike all other entries........
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Maybe I haven't understood well.
On my N97 Mini, if I have a ToDo with a expired due date, it is repeated every day anyway, as a active ToDo.
I can see you in the week plan view or in the daily view.
By DreamLife I cannot see a not completed ToDo with a expired due date. The risk I see of your ToDo management is that I cannot see which activity I have forgotten to do if I don't scan every day the ToDo box.

Regards

Umberto Amadei

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b) The Symbian calendar doesn't do anything to help this -- it doesn't present uncompleted todos in today's list, so we have to manually process todos, unlike all other entries........
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Maybe I haven't understood well.
On my N97 Mini, if I have a ToDo with a expired due date, it is repeated every day anyway, as a active ToDo.
I can see you in the week plan view or in the daily view.
By DreamLife I cannot see a not completed ToDo with a expired due date. The risk I see of your ToDo management is that I cannot see which activity I have forgotten to do if I don't scan every day the ToDo box.
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I think you've got it. Yes, our approach does have the negative of losing incomplete todos off your current view.

Unfortunately, the alternative of keeping incomplete todos on your current view would usually not help matters, because they're semi-hidden (stacked under each other) without a list view of some sort. Note that the Calendar you're using does, in fact, provide a list view (day view is just a list view, and week view shows a split-pane list view below) so it avoids this problem to some extent.

That's why we think the solution has to involve a list view for displaying todos.

If you have UI suggestions for how we can display a large stack of untimed entries in our planner view without using a list view, I'd love to hear them!

Thanks,

<br><hr align="left" color="#000000" width="110" size="1"> Malcolm Lithgow<br> <font color="#7E7E7E">Chief Dreamer</font><br> <font color="#7E7E7E">DreamSpring Pty Ltd    <a href="www.dreamspring.com">www.dreamsp...;/font></p>